Wednesday, December 25, 2024

Quote: Haydock or Scofield?


Haydock or Scofield?

Now, in the Haydock Bible, the sources of comments are marked, you are likely to often see Calmet cited or some of the older Catholic bishops serving persecuted English Catholics, like Witham and Challoner, but this comment is actually by Haydock himself:

Concerning the transactions of these early times, parents would no doubt be careful to instruct their children, by word of mouth, before any of the Scriptures were written; and Moses might derive much information from the same source, as a very few persons formed the chain of tradition, when they lived so many hundred years. Adam would converse with Mathusalem, who knew Sem, as the latter lived in the days of Abram. Isaac, Joseph, and Amram, the father of Moses, were contemporaries: so that seven persons might keep up the memory of things which had happened 2500 years before. But to entitle these accounts to absolute authority, the inspiration of God intervenes; and thus we are convinced, that no word of sacred writers can be questioned. (Haydock)


To be clear, Haydock was the Catholic, the nephew several generations removed of the Deformation era martyr, he published his Bible comment or Study Bible starting with 1811. Scofield was Protestant, his copy was from 1909 and second edition 1917. And the Scofield Bible contains this item, from Genesis 1, lacking in Haydock:

The use of "evening" and "morning" may be held to limit "day" to the solar day; but the frequent parabolic use of natural phenomena may warrant the conclusion that each creative "day" was a period of time marked off by a beginning and ending.


So, Haydock, the Catholic, was strictly Young Earth, both as to creation days up to creation of Adam and as to (especially as in the quote above) the time from Adam on.

Scofield, the Protestant, was promoting at least acceptance of both Gap theory and Day Age, i e Old Earth. However, as to the history of mankind, the comments to Genesis 5 and 11 do not show any callousness about Biblical chronology from Adam on, however, also no special solicitousness about it, unlike how the Haydock quote makes a short chronology (literal Masoretic to literal LXX) for Genesis 5 and 11, and probably also a short Soujourn, vital for the correct preservation of the Genesis 3 narrative.

Saturday, April 1, 2023

Is Genesis 9 a Pro-Slavery Text?


A certain Benjamin Joseph Palmer used it so. More specifically a pro-black slavery text. It has always been taken as endorsing some degree of penal servitude for individuals who behave badly, but not badly enough to merit death penalty. But Benjamin Palmer claimed it were a pro-black slavery text, stating a certain ethnicity ought to remain slaves up to doomsday.

Saying it is that, is like saying Habacuc 2:15 is a prohibition text.

No, it's not.

Woe to him that giveth drink to his friend, and presenteth his gall, and maketh him drunk, that he may behold his nakedness.

I think Kent Hovind has cited this as "cursed" and not "woe" and that online Bibles have tended to replace it to obfuscate the point. Canaan was cursed for serving Noah too much wine, falsly assuring him two pints or three won't hurt, even if he was not used to it. Noah put on him the duty to serve wine - correctly, without deceit about what the quantities would do./HGL

Sunday, March 12, 2023

Prot or Not, Quiz Answers, Mine and Correct Ones.


10:01 Kyle Whittington's round.

1 Trad (Vigano)
2 Trad (and not Sede, since crediting Wojtyla with fighting against Communism) (wrong, James White)
3 ? (Trad = Robert Sungenis)
4 Trad (probably truncated from Lefebvre - yep, James Battle left out "new" in the quote)
5 Trad (Marcel Lefebvre)

Kyle Whittington considered it Protestant, even though Protestants don't refer to the papacy as the See of St. Peter or see the Mystical Body of Christ as correlated with it.

I suppose Kyle Whittington is a cradle Catholic with limited exposure to either Protestants or Trads.

I got three out of five right, for the two others, I was unsure of Robert Sungenis (but it sounds like him, when I'm told), and took James White for a Trad.

17:34 The Logos Project round.

1 Protestant (wrong, discord Radtrad)
2 Protestant (Martin Luther) (yep, I'm an ex-Lutheran, and this was one of the things that made me take disgust at him)
3 Protestant (Wesley or Calvin?) (yep, I got the person Calvin right within one of two guesses)
4 Protestant (yep, James White)
5 Trad (Dimond Brothers) (Facebook Sedevacantist - definitely one who has heard Peter and Michael Dimond once in a while)

4/5 right.

26:03 Peruvian José's round

1 Protestant (yep, Calvin - note that Calvin says Christ's Church actually has a jurisdiction and a magisterium)
2 ? (Facebook Radtrad)
3 Protestant (though Paul Balaster, Mexican Greek Orthodox, would have agreed) (Martin Luther - I'd have guessed Henry VIII)
4 Protestant (a Radtrad would have said "of the Catholic Church") (Facebook Prot)
5 Protestant (Ellen G. White?) (James White - The Roman Catholic Controversy)

4/5 again.

28:05 Bonus:

1 Trad (Orthodox!)

I would say that Lefebvre might agree with this, or nearly, but I would not have placed it on him, since it didn't sound like him.

Perhaps he would not agree on "ultimate" ... he would have been more cautious and called it a rebellion against God, at least the parts of him I have read, but not the ultimate which is a nuance.

Monday, January 20, 2020

sudoku


861
742
593
497
653
218
?5?
891
746
425
618
937
186
739
542
937
!2!
618
159
274
386
874
365
921
?6?
189
!7!


? = 2/3
! = 4/5

There are four possibilities to get a valid solution, by the given grid.

Il y a quatre possibilités de solution correcte, selon le quiz.

Thursday, January 17, 2019

Solution on legend vs fairy tale


Item one (I), The Two Princes with Hair of Gold, is a fairy tale.

Item two (II), Die Belagerung von Ödenburg (The Siege of Sopron), is a legend.

Wednesday, March 30, 2016

solution de/of sudoku

341
652
987
268
917
543
975
834
621
214
839
765
389
675
124
567
??2
398
123
476
598
456
891
732
789
253
??6
?=1/4

Monday, March 14, 2016

Responsum

Probabiliter vidit mappulam circa caseum camembertinum quam caseus dictus Rusticus (Le rustique) habet rubeam et albam tesselatam, et quam non habet caseus camembertinus dictus Praesidens (Le Président).